Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30504572-20161114164353/@comment-30504572-20161114172524

The only exception I have ever found to be a speedster without the speed force is indeed Earth-2 Jay Garrick. Saying how he is not in this conversation I find him unrelevant, though I get your point.

Regardless of what the creator has said, their speed powers must come from somewhere (like how Jay Garrick got his from a god [Mercury]), and the general idea of Wally still being absorbed into something still applies even if its not the "speed force"

I understand what happens in the comic is not necessarily true for YJ, but you cant deny the fact that it is the source material and they do draw from it on some extent. Not saying they have to follow them to an exact letter though.

Your are right though, the speed force has not been used since the dawn, I meant the dawn of more modern comics, but my phone cuts out words some times, my bad (auto-correct is my enemy), sorry.