Board Thread:Young Justice News/@comment-1635895-20130327030726/@comment-5188108-20130413182440

Thailog wrote: I know for a fact that they did.

I'd be interested in hearing more.

Thailog wrote: Apart from "WB gave them permission to put VA on Kickstarter and it searched its goal in 10 hours", what else is there to know?

I may have phrased that poorly. I meant things such as, what specifically are they funding? The whole project? Just the production (for VM I believe WB agreed to foot the promo costs if it reached target)? A portion of the production? Were they able to speak to the legal and rights issues (they weren't necessarily talking to the same part of WB VM was, and there's DC and possibly CN to consider too)? Did they have assurances key personnel would be on board? Didn't the VM movie have a script ready to go?

And what about promotion for the kickstarter? It's not just about getting the thing open, it's about meeting the goal. VM succeeded through a huge social media push. AskGreg and Brandon's twitter don't compare. And they won't have the advantage of being "revolutionary" like VM. Do either have the knowledge or experience to promote this? Perhaps this is where another party might come in handy?

Thailog wrote: "To get some buzz" is exactly what a site like this needs in its infancy. And what would the WB sue them for? If they lied about having a meeting with WB, then that's all they did. What kind of loss or damages could the WB sue them for? Thou shalt not take the name of the WB in vain?

What have they gained from this so far? A little exposure in two niche (and largely overlapping) fanbases? That's not much. They need to actually have something come of this to have any buzz. A proof of principle. What good does any of this do them if WB doesn't agree? "Hey, look everyone we're a website dedicated to saving TV shows and our first two attempts failed!" is not good publicity. In fact, if WB turns them down it could end them - it may not gain much attention but if any fans of other shows go looking into it in future and find their first attempts went nowhere, what are they going to think?

If I were them, I would have held off to find a property to revive, got the owners on board and then gone public, with something ready to go. And from some of the posts on their website it looks like that's pretty much what they wanted to do, but the networks wanted to see a product, the website went up in beta, fanbases caught wind of it and it spiralled out to this.

The lawsuit comment was more directed at any attempts at deception further down the line. If they were to say they are working with WB at any point when in fact they weren't, they'll be in a world of trouble. And it's only once they say that that they're going to make any real impact beyond a few fansites.

Thailog wrote: Giancarlo Volpe vouched for the legitimacy of SMGO because he talked to them, but why could none of the producers confirm it with the WB? If John Doe could get the WB on the phone and arrange a business meeting and announce it, I'd think that at least one of the producers would be able to confirm it with the company.

SMGO's announcement was retracted. Clearly WB didn't want them talking about it (unsurprisingly). You think they'd be happy with Greg/Brandon/Giancarlo talking about it?

Thailog wrote: And I love how everyone was so cynical about the mail campaigns but when an unknown figure professes to be the solution to all our problems, everyone gets a major case of blue hope. I'm fine with assuming good faith, but we are being asked to accept too much without any kind of confirmation/information.

What, you think it's strange that a business was more receptive to someone coming up and saying "let us pay you to do something", than a load of letters saying "do this for us and then we'll pay you. Yes, I know it wasn't profitable enough before but we'll do better this time, promise!"? I don't mean to put down the mail camapign, in fact I think it is/was essential to the success of any future endeavour to bring YJ back, including SMGO, but on it's own it didn't have much of a chance of working. A foundation for others to build on.

What are we being asked to accept exactly? That a new company (*shudder* because we all know there hasn't been a successful new company to emerge in over a century, and certainly not one that capitalises on changes in media production/consumption in the digital age!) was able to arrange a meeting with a major company to discuss reviving two moderately successful shows with active fanbases, in a way similar to one of the most talked about events in the TV biz in years?

If and when they start saying they've got approval and start taking pledges and there's no word from WB, than yes, it would be way too much to take on blind faith. But a meeting?