Board Thread:Episodic and Issue Discussion/@comment-47881-20130223164815/@comment-3003805-20130224084019

Regulus22 wrote: Avataress0 wrote: Regulus22 wrote:

Avataress0 wrote:

Regulus22 wrote: Arsenal has a grand total of -two- personal failings. Kid Flash & Robin managed that in the first episode alone. If batman were kicking on the same level as Nightwing, we wouldn't have a show at all. Yes this is true, but also Robin and Kid Flash also made these mistakes when there was no team at all. Arsenal made these mistakes with a fully developed and *somewhat* matured team. I don't think that there is much comparison between the two faults He hadn't been apart of that team for much longer. One of the things was his first mission as well, with a bunch of other noobs or traitors with no guardianship, the other. Easily matched by the trillions of other failures that they've all had. Nightwing's entire role in season two is as endangering, if not moreso, then what Arsenal did. I agree with this, but in his first mission, he purposefully deviated from what they were instructed to do. It's a very testy subject I think, but personally the team will be no better nor worse without Arsenal.

You disobeyed direct orders, hacked justice league systems and endangered lives. You will not, be doing this again.

A few months later.

You disobeyed direct orders, hacked justice league systems and endangered lives. Tell me if this is familiar?

Arsenal did better. He pulled off better rescues, fended off stronger opponent. And DIDN'T hack the systems. Arsenal is a better team player then he was, and he's still doing it poorly. I agree with Arsenal and Nightwing's decisions. I consider them necessary to achieve the victories that they are and have. What I consider to be stupid is Nightwing not respecting that he did the same thing, despite admitting it earlier in practically the same words he used to admonish Arsenal. But when Robin & KF disobeyed/Year 1 members, is was b/c they really thought their plan would work, and they were doing it w good-ish intentions. Arsenal was just like "F u guys! I'm doing this!" Then blew up some of Lex's stuff for his own game etc. Roy just did it to be a dick. He should have been suspended from almost getting everyone murdered when they did that mission in Smallville.