Board Thread:Episodic and Issue Discussion/@comment-47881-20130223164815/@comment-71.212.27.34-20130224022207

72.241.22.173 wrote: Bellboyjr wrote: Eye of the Abyss wrote: Arsenal could have killed the team, and his actions certainly led to their capture. Nightwing was perfectly justified in kicking him off, seeing as how Arsenal endangered most of the team which resulted in their capture by the Reach. When people act irrationally, people talk to them. Nightwing set it in stone by kicking Arsenal off the team and pretty much ruined any chance of him getting help he'd need by simply saying "get over it*" or get out.

What the hell did he mean by "personal demons" in that way? Did he not get the memo that Speedy was a prisoner for eight years- time he's NEVER going to get back*? You'd think NW would be more sympathetic. I think as far as leadership NW needs to think back at the time Aqualad was leader because I don't believe for a second Kaldur would be that rash.

Really disappointed in Nightwing. He was the only downer on an otherwise great episode. I hope someone calls him out on this but I find it unlikely. But then odder things have happened on YJ. Thank you. I wanted someone to agree with me on this one. Nightwing was a dumbass, and the fact is that the only people that are Arsenal's side are the runaways Yeah, nice teammates hes got. They could have helped him, but they treated him like crap. I believe that Arsenal might get his revenge on Nightwing, which the two will fight, and I hope Arsenal kicks that dick's ass. Nightwing deserves it

Yeah but the tension that Arsenal created among the many team members who had their lives at risk due to Arsenal's decisions to help himself isn't easily solved either. Yes he lost 8 years of his life and his arm but he has shown on multiple occasions he won't work well with other people unless it benefits him. If Nightwing had let him stayed it could have ruined what little thread that held them together fall further apart. Granted most of that was also on Nightwing for not letting the team know of the plan either.

Arsenal does deserve some sympathy because of what had happened to him and if it wasn't for him the others wouldn't have been saved and during that battle against Blue he might've been captured too if he didn't run away like he did. Yet he almost killed Robin not one but twice as well as Bumblebee by opening the hatch and quickened the defeat of the rest of the team. If you were in there position I don't think you would go "oh hey you lost 8 years of your life and an arm, we forgive you and sympathize with you for almost killing two of us again" too easily. Considering how hard the team took it when Artemis was "killed" they may have reacted the same for their other friends the same way and since it was someone on their own team who almost killed two members I don't see that going very well at all. Nightwing did what he could to keep the team together and kicking Arsenal off the team may have been the best option. How Nightwing handled it wasn't the best either by going "hey good job...your off the team" coulda done that at the base or something.