User blog comment:Nardragon/Justice League 2015/@comment-34954086-20121109022122/@comment-4928331-20121110233808

Cap vs. GL because honestly, serious lack of direct comparisons here. I'm well aware the most appropriate comparison is Nova, which would result in a TIE. But Nova's not in Avengers, and you can bet Green Lantern will be in just about every iteration of a JL.

Besides, Cap vs. Superman will result in Cap winning the grounded test, hands down. Even Cap vs. Batman (who, along with GA is probably THE most grounded JL members) will result in Cap winning -- as I'll reiterate, how many billionaires run around in their underwear, dressed like a giant bat?

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If Manhunter was a religious construct and Thor wasn't, then yes, the verdict will flip. For the sake of argument, you might say Wondy is a better comparison to Thor, since they're both gods, so we end up with:

Thor - Norse god of Thunder, runs around in armor with magic hammer vs.

Wonder Woman - Greek demi-goddess formed from clay (and daughter of Zeus in nDCU), runs around in armor with magic lasso and invisible jet

I would still pull out the religion card. The Vikings dreamed up Thor, but it took a 20th Century psychologist to dream up Wonder Woman -- who wasn't part of any Greek/Roman mythology. Sure, the Amazons (and Hippolyta) existed in Greek mythology (archers who cut off their left breasts) - but they never had any invisible airplanes or truth-serum lassos.

That would leave Black Widow vs. Martian Manhunter, which will end in a ridiculous grounded victory to Natasha.

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Green Arrow and Hawkeye are basically the same character, yes. Both men shoot trick arrows, both men are willing to kill (although Hawkeye is more violent), both men have improbable aiming skills, and are entirely self-taught (though received additional training. The background is main differentiator - Hawkeye was just an ordinary joe who fell in with the criminal element.  Green Arrow is a billionaire.  I ask you, who among the two are more identifiable - and thus grounded?

I do not understand how my Green Arrow verdict invalidates my Batman verdict (a TIE). If we switch Batman and Green Arrow, Batman would be FAR LESS grounded than Hawkeye, while Tony would just be a tad less believable than Ollie - though the verdict is quite quite close, so it's just a TAD.

I don't quite think I've taken things out of context. If you still disagree, then I invite you to post the lineup of a potential Justice League movie against the current Avengers move lineup.