Board Thread:Episodic and Issue Discussion/@comment-47881-20130105162021/@comment-1038387-20130109160802

In the old Titans series, he was a villain who eventually became an anti-villain. Then he got his own series, and got bumped to gritty 90s villain-with-a-series (which does not equal "anti-hero"). Afterwards, he's usually portrayed as pretty ruthless - Teen Titans, everything Secret Society, and Batman Reborn (Morrison also makes a b-- out of Talia) most importantly.