Board Thread:DC Universe Discussion/@comment-34954086-20121013054202/@comment-1635895-20121013060839

Oh, no no no no no no. I watched this the other night, and most of it was okay, some of it laughable.

I see what they're trying to do, they're trying to "Nolanize" Green Arrow, and I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. For starters, I have a real peeve with changing DC canon for no logical reason. Does it bother me that they changed his name from "Green Arrow" to "Arrow"? No, that's fine, because it makes sense. This is clearly a more realistic Green Arrow, and the name is a little silly, especially when you give it to yourself, so that was fine. But changing "Star City" to "Starling City"? That's unnecessary. There's no reason for it, and it's just silly. I'm confused as to why Dinah Lance goes by her middle name. That's another change I didn't think was necessary.

On Ollie's character, I'm not a fan. They're trying to force the character to be awesome and badass, but there's a lot of clunky dialogue in the way. Case in point, his shortened answers to questions;


 * "What happened to you on that island?"


 * "A lot".

It's annoying me. I think they really need to work on that character, because as of now I'm not seeing many relatable flaws or strengths. I think Ollie would work very nicely if he was less cold and harsh, and maybe a little bit more egocentric. I hate to copy more successful franchises, but I always thought of Oliver Queen as being similar to Tony Stark, except Oliver moves away from Tony's narcissistic mannerisms as his character develops.

As one of my favorite DC and Young Justice characters, I was SO looking forward to seeing Dinah Lance/Black Canary. When it was announced she wasn't going to be Black Canary, that was fine by me. I just hope she moves towards that role, and that hopefully we can see "the Canary" as a new vigilante in Starling City.

I didn't like the Speedy reference. It felt forced, and far too much for the fans.

The action scenes were superb, minus the fact that Oliver is killing them. I thought that Ollie, along with the rest of the League, were anti-killing? Let's see where this goes.

Didn't like that police officer/investigator. In fact, that whole questioning scene was just awkward. Piles of awkward dialogue upon cliche dialogue. I was finishing the character's sentences before they had even started.

I did like the concierge guy though. I can't remember his name, but he was that awesome black guy that followed Ollie around. He was cool. I'd like to see more of him.

American television also needs to toss out the archetypical "evil mom" character. I don't need any more of those. It's unoriginal, and now it's inevitable that she'll die. Just watch.

Also fun fact, did anyone catch the Deathstroke mask that was on the island at the beginning? That was certainly interesting, and he's a villain I think fits within Arrow's universe.

All in all, it's not beyond saving. Let's just hope that it improves from here. I'll definitely continue watching. I can't tell if it's the writer's dialogue or the actors' delivery of it, but it needs some work. There doesn't seem to be a story arc set up at current, but those closing scenes gave us a bit to worry about. It's interesting, and I'll keep watching, but I could very easily be swayed to discontinue. If I was rating the pilot, I'd give it a 6/10. I think it's the scripts that are the issue here, and a bit of refinement would probably bump that 6 to a 7.5

What'd everyone else think?