Ratrangerm wrote: Tara's already been reporting some of that information to the Light, plus Gretchen concluded that the various teams had to be working together because of Dick Grayson and Jefferson Pierce showing up at her house, then Aqualad coming by to check on them.
And with Gretchen having betrayed the Light, I doubt the Light is going to be interested in exposing the League. The Light will be more interested in counteracting Darkseid and his forces. (Remember that Godfrey has been manipulating Lex Luthor, too.)
There will be consequences for the League, the Team and the Outsiders, but it's more likely coming from within. Though I still suspect the twist will be Savage working with the League to thwart Darkseid.
Look, I'm not saying I approve of Batman's methods but come on, this is pretty classic of him. When it comes to him, the mission always takes top priority. Though sometimes he gets way too deep into said mission, Jeff questioned what good is it if they lose themselves in the process but with Bruce, that may have already happened.
After what happened to Jason Todd and Barbara's paralysis, it's hard not to see where he's coming from.
Sbrady538 wrote: I am seriously disgusted at how the Anti-Light team refuse to apologize or admit what they did was wrong. They say it was for the greater good, but all they have done is lie and manipulate everyone around them, their friends, teammates etc. Not to mention a lot of relationships will be tested and might never be repaired.
Examples:
- Aquaman's leadership will be called into question.
- M'gann's relationship with Conner and Garfield will be damaged and quite possibly her leadership on the Team.
- Tim is probably going to lose Cassie like Garfield said and it could also cost him his friendships with everyone on the Team/Outsiders.
- Batman might never be trusted or welcomed back into the Justice League and could possibly be kicked out for good.
However, what they could really and defiantly most likely lose in the end will be everyone's trust and it was perfectly proven by Jeff. What they did cannot be easily forgiven as when you break someone's trust, it can almost never be fully repaired. Now this situation will raise serious questions.
- How could the Justice League ever trust their leader again after learning of this massive lie and could they vote Kaldur out as leader or a member altogether?
- Will the Anti-Light ever make amends for what they did?
- Will this revaltion permently tear the Justice League and everyone apart?
Look, you may not believe it but I like to think everyone besides Bruce are regretful in one way or another. It's just hard to argue with the likes of the Batman. Especially when-as Barbara pointed out-most of the Anti-Light is made up of yes-men to Bruce.
Dick, Barbara, and Tim were personally trained and taught by Bruce. Taking orders from him is like second nature. That and he raised Dick and Tim as a father figure. Kaldur and M'gann are founding members of the Team which was formed under Batman's supervision during his tenure as League chairman in season 1.
Diana's involvement was basically out of courtesy and the fact that she's too busy managing the contingent of Leaguers in outer space and doesn't actively participate in their endeavors, only informed after the fact.
Tim's facial expressions show that he did NOT enjoy lying to his girlfriend of two years or all his friends on the Team, Outsiders, and his squad.
I see Diana, while complicit, to have basically done the best she could. Other than fully outing the situation when offered and fracturing the League for real, what would she have really been able to do stuck in space? Abandon their mission which has universal stakes to go clean up the trash on Earth? That kind of thing would be capitalised on by Thanagarians, Apokalips and everyone in between.
What she did was stay on the inside so that she at least how far they were going, all while constantly trying to appeal to their better natures on how Dark they were becoming.
She might have disagreed with what they were doing, but she was still part of it nevertheless.
Does anyone have any theories on why Dick was affected more than Jefferson by the x-pit/death dimension? Sorry if I'm off topic, but it's really been bugging me...
Disappointing that Terra allied herself to Slade once more, but it's understandable. I find her to be significantly more likable and realistic in Young Justice than her other media appearances.
Evothe wrote: Does anyone have any theories on why Dick was affected more than Jefferson by the x-pit/death dimension? Sorry if I'm off topic, but it's really been bugging me...
I think it could have something to do with all the secrets that Nightwing was part of. The X-pit probably acts as a psychological/brainwashing device, using subliminal messages coupled with pain, among other things, to "discipline" it's occupants to submission. It might have triggered a PTSD-like reaction in him, especially if he tried much harder not to spill those secrets...
That makes sense; I didn't quite catch what the x-pit extorts, so I wasn't sure. I hope it's addressed later. I'm glad young justice has been emphasizing how many roles Nightwing plays; I've always thought it was a core trait to his character, but other DC media hasn't represented it as much.
I'm concerned about how this will affect his "trust-worthy"-ness among the rest of the hero communities. He's always been the one guy all the capes trust--it would be sad if that changes in the impending episodes.
Evothe wrote: That makes sense; I didn't quite catch what the x-pit extorts, so I wasn't sure. I hope it's addressed later. I'm glad young justice has been emphasizing how many roles Nightwing plays; I've always thought it was a core trait to his character, but other DC media hasn't represented it as much.
I'm concerned about how this will affect his "trust-worthy"-ness among the rest of the hero communities. He's always been the one guy all the capes trust--it would be sad if that changes in the impending episodes.
I think that trust is already gone for some...