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  • Tupka217
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    05:34, November 8, 2018
    YJ-c25-final

    "Players, Chapter Six: Rolling Doubles‎" is the last part of the Players arc.

    • The heroes make their last stand against Kylstar and Brainiac!
    • Metropolis is still in danger, but now the entire planet risks destruction!
    • Deadshot hits his target!
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    • Someone tell me, did Dick kiss Babs?!?

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    • No, that's the wrong question.

        • Are Dick & Babs in a relationship
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    • Thoughts:

      • For a last stand, there was surprisingly little fighting. Also, did I miss something? I'm getting the feeling they skipped over something in the Kylstar fight.
      • Minors playing spin the bottle? Damn, why did I miss that part in my teenage years?
      • Frag! Nos Kemnos! Orb-One speaks Interlac and Rannian?
      • Would Superboy holding Brainiac's head be a Shakespeare reference? "Alas, poor whatsit, I never seen this guy before, Horatio."
      • I really like the transition shot of M'gann between year 5 and year 0.
      • I predict a certain part of the fan art community will go wild of Queen Bee now.
      • I missed Jaime's scarab banter.
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    • @lorisa214. They (unfortuntely) aren't in a relationship but they do share romantic interest as Dick clearly says "i love you barb" I'm quite satisfied with the presentation of them together in the comic. Maybe it'll happen in the show now

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    • Oh kk. I just saw a couple spoilers on tumblr & it showed they got each other for spin the bottle, then IDK if it was Dick & Babs kissing when they were older or not. (Dif. post)

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    • Also, Did Artemis recognize Wally @ Dicks party?? Is that how she started to find out..Probs

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    • No, that's not Wally, according to Chris on twitter.

      They kissed in 2011, and again in the coda in 2015.

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    • Haven't read yet. Maybe Rannians speak a more polite form of Interlac? Or it's like the latin base for spanish, french, etc.

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    • Tupka217 wrote: Thoughts:

      • For a last stand, there was surprisingly little fighting. Also, did I miss something? I'm getting the feeling they skipped over something in the Kylstar fight.

      You mean the part between him screeching the heroes and his releasing everyone? Yeah, I got that feeling too.

      Tupka217 wrote: Thoughts:

      • I predict a certain part of the fan art community will go wild of Queen Bee now.

      I found it more shocking the implication that Marie likes the ladies... But Greg was right, that page was very chilling.

      Now, I wonder if Luthor is immune to her powers because he's bald...

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    • Thailog wrote:

      Tupka217 wrote: Thoughts:

      • I predict a certain part of the fan art community will go wild of Queen Bee now.

      I found it more shocking the implication that Marie likes the ladies... But Greg was right, that page was very chilling.

      It sort of explains why there's no Mister Logan around.

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    • Regulus22 wrote: Haven't read yet. Maybe Rannians speak a more polite form of Interlac? Or it's like the latin base for spanish, french, etc.

      Correction. I thought the "Nos Kemnos" like sounded familiar, and immediately thought of Rannian. It's actually from "Disordered"; Serifan says something similar, so it's New Genesisian.

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    • OK so Dick kissed Barbara?!


      I'm confused here.

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    • Technically, Barb kissed Dick the first time. We don't see who instigated the second kiss.

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    • 14 doen't count, plus it was spin the bottle. The 2nd one was funny.
      Dick : Why don't you date me!?!!
      Barbs : b/c I have options. Also U sux.

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    • My main impression after finishing the issue was how effortlessly Queen Bee upstaged all the other villains who had been around for several issues in a mere couple of pages. And it was wonderful to see some non-heterosexuality depicted.

      Loved the Dick/BabsBarb scenes of course. The Kylstar wrap up felt a little too easy. I wonder who could have enslaved Kylstar's people. The same tyrant who displaced Mongul, perhaps?

      Overall, best single issue of the comic, hands down. Though I admit my enthusiasm has been just a bit tempered by having spent over an hour writing up the synopsis to find that it got posted in the meantime. But I'm sure that's temporary.

      Edit: Oh, and I just noticed on the final page, on the lamppost there's a missing person poster for Stephanie Brown.

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    • Ok so at the beginning of this arc, we saw Dick after doing it with Bette and at the end we see him before he does it with Babs. Ok now I hate all this cause at first I was a Chalant shipper but now I think I'm a Dick/Babs shipper because it sees they have more of a connection. And I have to admit in the spin the bottle scene for some reason I though dick was gonna be with Artemis. Go figure! But anyways you can tell Barbara really has wanted to kiss Dick for a long time and wow that sounds weird what I just said. But Wally is freaking right, Nightwing is a dog. Player. Hmmm maybe that's why the name is players because of Nightwing haha. I'm just wondering though why they put this romantic moment between Dick and Babs I think it was to give a little insight on what's going on with Dicks relationships which this may explain what Batgirl said in Beneath I forget what it was but it left Nightwing speechless. But now I'm confused if I should go for Chalant or Batwing or whatever we call Babs and Dick

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    • It's better if you don't ship at all, really. It's better for your sanity. ;)

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    • Thailog wrote: It's better if you don't ship at all, really. It's better for your sanity. ;)

      Cept MarieXQueen Bee of course. That's golden.

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    • I have made my decision I ship Babs and Dick, Spitfire, WondeRoy, and Super Martian! Oh and I guess Mal and Karen that's kind of a given considering there's not other possibilities

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    • Tatertot623 wrote: I have made my decision I ship Babs and Dick, Spitfire, WondeRoy, and Super Martian! Oh and I guess Mal and Karen that's kind of a given considering there's not other possibilities

      Why do you only need to ship one couple for each person? For Nightwing I love his pairings with Zatanna, Bette, Barb and Tigress. No need to confine yourself so much...

      With Art he's got the passion.

      With Barb he's got the connection.

      With Bette he's got the chemistry.

      With Zatanna, he's got the triple threat.

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    • Tatertot623 wrote:
      I have made my decision I ship Babs and Dick, Spitfire, WondeRoy, and Super Martian! Oh and I guess Mal and Karen that's kind of a given considering there's not other possibilities

      Those are some mighty fine ships (especially Dick/Babs)

      I do find some disappointment the way they presented Dick with Bette (we can assume sex, but assumptions are bad) and the kiss with Zatanna, but in the end I do appreciate that Barb is in control I think. I'm just happy they kissed in this arc because Dick/Babs is my favorite anything couple

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    • Also in the last few panels before Dick and Babs kiss, there is a missing poster that appears to say the name Stephanie. Maybe stephanie brown?

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    • Did Deadshot kill Rumaan Harjavti? How did Queen Bee kill Marie Logan? And are Barbara and Dick dating?! I hope someone puts this on youtube soon.....

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    • Facepalm to the last comment...

      And there's already a summary on its page... -_-

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    • Regulus22 wrote:

      Tatertot623 wrote: I have made my decision I ship Babs and Dick, Spitfire, WondeRoy, and Super Martian! Oh and I guess Mal and Karen that's kind of a given considering there's not other possibilities

      Why do you only need to ship one couple for each person? For Nightwing I love his pairings with Zatanna, Bette, Barb and Tigress. No need to confine yourself so much...

      With Art he's got the passion.

      With Barb he's got the connection.

      With Bette he's got the chemistry.

      With Zatanna, he's got the triple threat.

      Tatertot623 I agree with everything you just said. Well Kinda. Spitfire is 100% the F-ing best!! It needs to be put in the comics..Or it's own comic! WondeRoy I love. But Roy peaced out, & Cass might be pissed at that. SuperMartian & Mal/K I don't care either way, It is that it is.

      Regulus22 you can not ship Traught! If that happens, then Wally has to date Babs. Not b/c I want them together, but b/c that way, no one is happy! That's like Scott Summers dating Storm instead of Jean, or Jay-Z marrying Rihanna, instead of Beyonce.

      Dick can be Forever Alone like Zack Morris, or with Zatanna.

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    • They don't have to Date...Why are people so concerned with that? lol

      They're good together, so are Wally and Artemis, but Dick is just as much. He can be Best friends (with occasion benefits in Tigress persona) with Artemis, have one night stands every other day with Bette, have BG play hard to get forever and a day form an actual relationship with Z.

      Only one left out is rocket, not a fan of that at ALL

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    • Regulus22 wrote:
      They don't have to Date...Why are people so concerned with that? lol

      They're good together, so are Wally and Artemis, but Dick is just as much. He can be Best friends (with occasion benefits in Tigress persona) with Artemis, have one night stands every other day with Bette, have BG play hard to get forever and a day form an actual relationship with Z.

      Only one left out is rocket, not a fan of that at ALL

      Well Rocket is getting married, so she's not even a factor anymore? I like Batgirl more than Zatanna though, but I'm biased since I love Dick/Babs before Young Justice. Dick and Barbara just have more connection and development. If they developed the Nightwing/Zatanna relationship I'd be okay with it too

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    • I don't know about all this Dick and Babs or Zata an or Tigress or Bette talk. We should pair Dick up with Miss M or Bumblebee or Wondergirl or Queen Bee! He could totally make those work cause he is a "dog"

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    • OMG! I just came back from Toy Story, to this! K, no. Artemis in Tigress persona, I feel would be like a praying mantis. & by that I mean once it's over, she would just kill him, cuz she'd be over it.
      Alos, continuos oneNightStand relationships do not work. True story. My BFF tried it, 2 months later this that the convo.
      Her: Um, Josh I'm really like you! (Doe eyed)
      Josh: Ya I know. (leaves, find me, & tries to hook up)

      Dick is like James Bond. 4ever alone, but not really.
      ...Rocket is getting married! Who ever it is, it'll blow our minds! It's gonna be someone we forgot about.

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    • In YJ, Dick & Babs have no chemistry on this show. If it wasn't 4 this site & tumblr, I wouldn't even know they were an option. Right now, Dick has more chemistry w Demona. Plus she has better hair.

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    • I just realized this comic issue probably sparked so many Babs/Dick fans so many WonderBeetle fans, so many Queen Marie fans, So many Bumblebeast fans, so many randombodyguard bee fans, and Bibboor fans.

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    • What's "Spitfire"

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    • No offense but this is why I don't like Anons because it seems at times they don't know much or respect the elder users. Spitfire is the name of Artemis and KFs pairing because of what Kent Nelson said about Wally getting his own spitfire referencing Artmeis

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    • There is still a possibility of chemistry developing with a few episodes left, but we just infer that they've been friends for a decent amount of time

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    • Come on why is no one else seeing how much chemistry Nighteing has with others like Black Beetle, Cheshire, Scientist, Tula, Marie Logan, or Cat Grant

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    • Tatertot623 wrote:
      Come on why is no one else seeing how much chemistry Nighteing has with others like Black Beetle, Cheshire, Scientist, Tula, Marie Logan, or Cat Grant

      Nightwing*

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    • Marie Logan is not attracted to men :P

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    • Zergrinch wrote:
      Marie Logan is not attracted to men :P

      she could go both ways. she does have a son after all.

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    • also, am i the only one upset that marie logan died so quickly after she met m'gann.

      i guess my headcanon prior to this issue was that she, m'gann, and gar became really close and like a real family for at least two years before she was murdered by queen bee

      i'm just a little disappointed, i'll get over it. 

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    • NightwingOfTheFuture wrote:

      Tatertot623 wrote:
      Come on why is no one else seeing how much chemistry Nighteing has with others like Black Beetle, Cheshire, Scientist, Tula, Marie Logan, or Cat Grant

      Nightwing*

      SRS question NightwingOfTheFuture. Has Nightwing ever been in a scene w Jade???...I do not think so....

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    • Lorisa214 wrote:

      NightwingOfTheFuture wrote:

      Tatertot623 wrote:
      Come on why is no one else seeing how much chemistry Nighteing has with others like Black Beetle, Cheshire, Scientist, Tula, Marie Logan, or Cat Grant
      Nightwing*
      SRS question NightwingOfTheFuture. Has Nightwing ever been in a scene w Jade???...I do not think so....

      Nope.

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    • Lorisa214 wrote:

      NightwingOfTheFuture wrote:

      Tatertot623 wrote:
      Come on why is no one else seeing how much chemistry Nighteing has with others like Black Beetle, Cheshire, Scientist, Tula, Marie Logan, or Cat Grant

      Nightwing*

      SRS question NightwingOfTheFuture. Has Nightwing ever been in a scene w Jade???...I do not think so....

      Wise girl. Knowing NightwingoftheFuture spends his time committed every detail of any seen that involves Dick.

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    • NightwingOfTheFuture wrote:

      Lorisa214 wrote:

      NightwingOfTheFuture wrote:

      Tatertot623 wrote:
      Come on why is no one else seeing how much chemistry Nighteing has with others like Black Beetle, Cheshire, Scientist, Tula, Marie Logan, or Cat Grant
      Nightwing*
      SRS question NightwingOfTheFuture. Has Nightwing ever been in a scene w Jade???...I do not think so....

      Nope.

      • coughs*usual suspects*cough*
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    • Tatertot623 wrote:
      I don't know about all this Dick and Babs or Zata an or Tigress or Bette talk. We should pair Dick up with Miss M or Bumblebee or Wondergirl or Queen Bee! He could totally make those work cause he is a "dog"

      I can live with those.

      In all seriousness though, Queen Bees short scenes were the highlight of the issue, she's a chillingly effective villain. 

      Though I do think they set Marie's death too early, should have left more time for her and M'gann to bond. Though I guess Queen Bee just waiting a few years to take her revenge wouldn't make much sense. 

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    • Regulus22 wrote:

      NightwingOfTheFuture wrote:

      Lorisa214 wrote:

      NightwingOfTheFuture wrote:

      Tatertot623 wrote:
      Come on why is no one else seeing how much chemistry Nighteing has with others like Black Beetle, Cheshire, Scientist, Tula, Marie Logan, or Cat Grant
      Nightwing*
      SRS question NightwingOfTheFuture. Has Nightwing ever been in a scene w Jade???...I do not think so....

      Nope.

      • coughs*usual suspects*cough*

      ...Well this is awkward. NightwingOfTheFuture, I was kinda betting you were a robot B4 this. On the other hand, you did respond like 10 minutes after I posted your name, so maybe!

      ..ON THE OTHER HAND, maybe Jade & Dick never saw each other.

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    • Ok let's stop this Nightwing shipping and I would like to mention as stated previously before that Marie's death did come extremely early. And you would think M'gann would be in mourning in the TV show which is why I believe the comic should have been in Year One and Year Five

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    • Tatertot623 wrote: Ok let's stop this Nightwing shipping and I would like to mention as stated previously before that Marie's death did come extremely early. And you would think M'gann would be in mourning in the TV show which is why I believe the comic should have been in Year One and Year Five

      It did come in year one (well, close to it) and year five.

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    • Well close to year one yes and year five I knew I just wanted to include it in my statement

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    • And why would we think M'gann would be in mourning in the tv show?

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    • You know what I'm gonna stop here apparently if Tupka is challenging my thinking then my thinking was flawed so I don't think I want to go up against Tupka

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    • @Tupka: Presumably Tater was talking about Marie dying too early in the timeline.  If she died closer to Team Year Five, then we'd see M'gann in mourning in the TV show.

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    • Oh, I can be wrong. I'm quite often wrong.

      Zerg - now that you mention it, maybe you're right. I mean, I don't see Gar as moving in with M'gann, or joining the Team, at age 9. Maybe 11 or 12.

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    • Thanks Zergrinch and I'd say 11 would be the time

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    • I expect he'd be drafted as soon as his skin turned green -- the kid won't have any kind of a social life after that anyway.  Any question asking when exactly that happened will probably be swatted down as SPOILER REQUEST NO COMMENT, as there can be an entire storyline about the emergence of Beast Boy's powers, and how he came to terms with it (or if he just thought it was cool).

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    • He would have any social life haha! You know what I just started wondering where is Gar's monkey I don't believe we have seen him in Invasion

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    • Superboy hates monkeys.

      And as for Monkey, he could be dead, as the normal lifespan for a green monkey is roughly around ten years.  He could already be an old monkey by Team Year zero.

      Alternatively, the Department of Homeland Security disallowed the importation of wildlife into the United States as a personal pet, and he was donated to some zoo somewhere.

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    • I thought americans were allowed monkeys as pet?

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    • Can you bring one home from Africa?  No western country would let you.  Well, maybe China, so you can eat it.  Even in your native Australia, I think you'll have to fill up quite a lot of paperwork, and that's not a guarantee of approval.

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    • Aboard a Martian Invisible Bioship? Whynot :P

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    • Good luck doing it with the goody goods Justice Leaguers looking over your shoulder.

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    • I'm sure Superman wouldn't mind a monkey. But Batman on the other hand...

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    • Tatertot623 wrote: I'm sure Superman wouldn't mind a monkey. But Batman on the other hand...

      You have not been paying attention.

      Superboy hates Monkeys!!!

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    • And apes too.

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    • Something that I thought was lame in this issue (as well as the others) now that I can read Zatanna's spells...they're kind of lame, sentences backwards? That's just me though, I don't know if anyone feels the same way

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    • Zergrinch wrote: Can you bring one home from Africa?  No western country would let you.  Well, maybe China, so you can eat it.  Even in your native Australia, I think you'll have to fill up quite a lot of paperwork, and that's not a guarantee of approval.

      You can bring animals from Africa to North America. But they have to stay in quarantine for about 6 months. I know you can bring domestic pets, IDK about wild & farm tho...well wild if you have a 'private zoo' & for that it doesn't look like you even have to have a lotta space 4 the animals, b/c if you youtube it, most are sh!tty & sad looking :( (the 'private zoo' BS you can only get away w in the US)

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    • America also lets you have farm animals in the city. BB prob could have brought his horses.

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    • I realize he hates monkeys but well he can suck it up for a presumably at the time 11 year old!

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    • Avataress0 wrote:
      Something that I thought was lame in this issue (as well as the others) now that I can read Zatanna's spells...they're kind of lame, sentences backwards? That's just me though, I don't know if anyone feels the same way

      that is how zatanna does magic though and its definitely not lame to be able to say any words she needs backwards perfectly, that is a mighty impressive skill right there.

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    • Avataress0 wrote:
      Something that I thought was lame in this issue (as well as the others) now that I can read Zatanna's spells...they're kind of lame, sentences backwards? That's just me though, I don't know if anyone feels the same way

      That's the way she works.  It does sound more impressive in a video than on a printed page, doesn't it?  And I have to say Lacey Chabert adds a lot more gravitas to this compared to Jennifer Hale's performance in THIS LITTLE PIGGY.

      One of my most favorite Zatanna stories is ZATANNA # 12 (2011) written by Matthew Sturges.  She faces a villain who was immune to her magic because he reverses time with a flick of the wrist, turning the spells into ordinary words.  Cue pallindromes like: NURSES RUN and OGRE FLOG A GOLFER, GO!

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    • @Lorisa I answered you question correctly...NIGHTWING and Jade have never appeared together in a scene.

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    • Zergrinch wrote:
      Avataress0 wrote:
      Something that I thought was lame in this issue (as well as the others) now that I can read Zatanna's spells...they're kind of lame, sentences backwards? That's just me though, I don't know if anyone feels the same way
      That's the way she works.  It does sound more impressive in a video than on a printed page, doesn't it?  And I have to say Lacey Chabert adds a lot more gravitas to this compared to Jennifer Hale's performance in THIS LITTLE PIGGY.

      One of my most favorite Zatanna stories is ZATANNA # 12 (2011) written by Matthew Sturges.  She faces a villain who was immune to her magic because he reverses time with a flick of the wrist, turning the spells into ordinary words.  Cue pallindromes like: NURSES RUN and OGRE FLOG A GOLFER, GO!

      I think seeing it in print took away from the value for me, but the way she works is interesting

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    • BTW, I just wanted to say a few words about this issue. Honestly, it was a bit disappointing for a final issue. I was hoping for more of a fight between the heroes and Kylstar/Brainiac instead of them being all "Oops, my bad. We're gone". I was also hoping for more closure about how M'gann managed to fix Superboy's relationship with Superman. Plus, I was hoping that Superman would get a peek at the lost cities so that he could get his hands on Kandor. And he was right to regret not asking Brainiac about it.

      But other than these problems, the issue was OK. I totally called it on this being how Noor Harjavti got abducted and replaced by the Kroloteans, though I didn't think that it would show how Bibbo suffered the same fate. Plus, it was nice to finally see Queen Bee's mind-control power in action, though it was a creepy way of showing how she murdered Marie Logan.

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    • Cari - I agree with you, it seemed a bit too convenient that the aliens were just like "Kay thanks bye" 

      Dick/Babs though made it okay for me (i'm a hopeless shipper I know)

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    • I have adored Dick and Babs together since a long time before this show even existed. I was hoping it would show up somewhere in this universe. I mean there were hints but they didn't really give us a straight out answer till this comic. Plus he told her he loves her. Come on that was like  I'm so so happy I love (Execute, Dibs, BirdBat - Dick/Babs 'no idea which saying is definite.') so much as much as Spitfire and Supermartian. It made my week for it to finally be realized as a cannon pairing. 

      Other then the Dick/Babs scenes which I loved this issue was a little anti climatic. The climax battle was a bit too quick for me. But given the fact they had to finish everything in this issue I guess it makes sense. To tell you the truth I was a little confused about how things were settled the scene against The Collector of Worlds himself was pretty cool but the whole Kylestar scene seeemed a bit puzzling how the agreement was made. The scene where Marie was controlled by Queen Bee was downright creepy. But it worked I guess and given the villianess herself it made sense. 

      All and all it was still a good comic.

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    • Cari1994 wrote:
      BTW, I just wanted to say a few words about this issue. Honestly, it was a bit disappointing for a final issue. I was hoping for more of a fight between the heroes and Kylstar/Brainiac instead of them being all "Oops, my bad. We're gone". I was also hoping for more closure about how M'gann managed to fix Superboy's relationship with Superman. Plus, I was hoping that Superman would get a peek at the lost cities so that he could get his hands on Kandor. And he was right to regret not asking Brainiac about it.

      But other than these problems, the issue was OK. I totally called it on this being how Noor Harjavti got abducted and replaced by the Kroloteans, though I didn't think that it would show how Bibbo suffered the same fate. Plus, it was nice to finally see Queen Bee's mind-control power in action, though it was a creepy way of showing how she murdered Marie Logan.

      To be fair, Greg was not expecting the comics to end after that arc.  You can see this by the large amount of plot coupons he placed in the story -- the biggest one is Kylstar's plan to take over the galaxy, and what the roles of Black Adam, Blockbuster, and Major Force are.

      It was rather anticlimactic though.  I had wanted a battle royale, but I also know you can only do so much in 22 pages.

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    • No guys! SRS question! K, I don't have this issue yet. So Did Dick wake up w Kane on the morning of his B-day, (Where Wally & Artemis greeted him, then went to bed that night w Babs!? WOOOOWW!!!!

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    • No, they "spent time together". After midnight.

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    • Spent time together we all know what that means haha. Wow all this provocative stuff is kind of making me wonder if we should get YJ on a more mature network. I'm really bummed out that this comic will be the last. I mean there is so much more that can be put in the comics

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    • Honestly, I believe it to be platonic in the case at the end there. She turned him down utterly moments before. She's an old friend who he obviously hasn't spent much time with since Jason responsibilities in the Team have increased, spending a little time with an old friend for his birthday doesn't have to mean anything mature...

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    • OMG!!!

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    • K, good. Just based on how she was dressed, it was not a "Happy Birthday, let's have sex" It was a "I just got off a gross bus, so carry my stuff!"

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    • Exactly, Zatanna's attire on the other hand...

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    • LOL! Very come hither look she's got going

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    • K, Comic Book related question!
      Possible SPOILER ALERT



      Does Damian Wayne die!??/get brutally murdered/ did it already happen??

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    • Yes.

      He was shot with arrows, then with a gun.  Then he got kneed in the back (think Bane vs Batman).  Then his face was pounded into hamburger.  Then a big flaming sword was shoved through his chest.

      Edit: Hm on retrospect, I made a mistake.  Actually he was shot with multiple guns.  And he didn't get pounded on his face, but he did get choked and smashed into a wall.

      Sorry for the inconvenience.

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    • Are you being serious with me?

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    • If you demand photographic proof, email me at mynick on Gmail.

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    • lol, k I did it

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    • Proof sent.  Now, it is up to you whether you believe it or not =)

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    • Well that's not tooo gross. His body was still intact, I was thinking it was gonna be hanging together with strings of muscles, and flesh...I really wish they made rated R DC & Marvel comics w the main heros! I'm talking biting your knuckles while you read it b/c it's so gross or unsettling.

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    • Or maybe just more detail in the drawings.
      *Gross Story*
      Like yesterday one of my lil fishes died, and I'd kinda ignored them for the last day. So I go to feed them, and ones dead. But 1/3 of it's missing, b/c they had been eating it! OMG LIKE WILD ANIMALS! So Fing gross, & now I can't look at them the same way. They ate their damn friend.
      *Gross story over*
      I want to be THAT grossed out, & uncomfortable when the next DC character gets murdered!

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    • I a tank full of fish one time. This one guppy, he grew. The others disappeared. We kept getting more fish, never seeing them again while it continued to get fatter.

      Fish are cannibals, kinda their thing. Big fishies eat smaller fishies. Bigger Sharkies and Crocies eat big fishies. Then we eat them.

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    • So I'm waking up to that song tomorrow. But I thought you were gonna link me to the underwater/shark episode of Magic School Bus.

      ALOS! NO! These fish, are the size of my pinky. They are all the same size too. they were just nipping away at him, w their gums, lil bits @ a time.

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    • Yeah, That's how big the guppy was. Was. :D

      Best Movie and Soundtrack. The musical's coming to Oz this year too.

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    • Lorisa, if you want to be grossed out, you're reading comics from the wrong country.

      You should go for Japanese manga for gross things :)

      Although, if you want to see a no-holds barred treatment of bad things happening to minors (even death), pick up a copy of Nick Spencer's MORNING GLORIES .  Photorealistic art of discretion gore!

      Like Greg Weisman's stuff though, you really MUST start at issue 1.  No jumping in, or you get really confused really fast.

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    • Uh, I'm so morbid. I'm always like "Just kill them off!! ..Brutally!..b/c it adds depth + reasons" But then my fish eat each other & I'm grossed the F out.

      I read one manga once, Mars by Fuyumi Soryo, & it was super sweet. The rest were all "Tee-hh! life! ^-^ "

      I didn't know Greg did dark?!

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    • He doesn't, but his seminal work Gargoyles has riddles piled on top of secrets wrapped around in puzzles.

      You might recognize the same type of intricate plots and insane twists in Spectacular Spider-Man and Young Justice too.

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    • DO go see the Lion King! It will make your life complete! tickets are $$, but srsly GO! & see Wicked! (pr- to Wizard of Oz) Well, u might not like the 2nd, but TLK = Magic!

      LOL, AKA Wizard of Australia
      Also, does this happen often? OMG, I saw this once w horses

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    • Pssh, I know what Wicked is, not a neanderthal...XD

      All the damn time, it's why Australians are so good at sport, even the passive ones like golf need to be fully capable of maneuvering around herds of Kangaroos.

      You've been out of the country a while, huh?

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    • Lorisa214 wrote:
      Well that's not tooo gross. His body was still intact, I was thinking it was gonna be hanging together with strings of muscles, and flesh...I really wish they made rated R DC & Marvel comics w the main heros! I'm talking biting your knuckles while you read it b/c it's so gross or unsettling.

      marvel have several books with the word MAX in the title which dont go through the usual censorship that their main books do, they get quite dark. the punisher had a series for a while where he was finally allowed to go nuts and kill all the people he wanted to.

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    • Okay I'd like to know why people assume that that line between Dick and Babs was about having sex? I really don't think that was the intention of the line at all. I believe they just wanted to spend time together.

      Especially after reading one of Greg's answers to the question of Dick spending the night with Bette. I don't assume it to be true. After all this is still intended to be a kids show.

      Shade234 writes...

      3. Are Bette Kane and Dick dating as of "Before the Dawn" or was she a one-night stand?

      Greg responds...

      3. Neither.

      Source of answer: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=17830

      People can believe what they want. That's just my stance on things I'm not going to argue with anyone but this just bugs me that people keep assuming things such a way. *sighs* Eh whatever. 

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    • Zodisgod wrote:

      Lorisa214 wrote:
      Well that's not tooo gross. His body was still intact, I was thinking it was gonna be hanging together with strings of muscles, and flesh...I really wish they made rated R DC & Marvel comics w the main heros! I'm talking biting your knuckles while you read it b/c it's so gross or unsettling.

      marvel have several books with the word MAX in the title which dont go through the usual censorship that their main books do, they get quite dark. the punisher had a series for a while where he was finally allowed to go nuts and kill all the people he wanted to.

      Oh cool!! kk, I shall check those out. Are there female heros (??) too?..I'm starting to scare myself with how morbid I'm becoming.

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